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Then and Now series transcript: How it was accomplished

Join Star photographer A.E. Araiza — better known as Fred in the newsroom — as he shares how he approached the journey into history that became the “Then and Now” series.

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You may submit questions at any time. They will be in moderation until they are answered beginning at noon Wednesday, so you will not see them.

by Johanna Eubank, tucson.com 4/8/2016 4:29:12 PM
See our "Then and Now around Tucson" photo gallery.

by Johanna Eubank, tucson.com 4/8/2016 9:46:46 PM
Hi, welcome to our Q&A with Fred Araiza. He took the "now" photos that are in our "Then and now around Tucson gallery."

by Johanna Eubank, tucson.com 4/13/2016 7:03:21 PM
I went through all 146 photos - the one in the paper wasn't there. Don't advertise something's there without producing it.

by Jim 4/13/2016 7:03:29 PM
Jim, Some of the photos dropped off the gallery. I have added them back ion. Thanks for letting us know they were missing.

by Johanna Eubank, tucson.com 4/13/2016 7:04:13 PM
Hi Fred,My first shopping experiences, growing up in Tucson, were all downtown. My favorite memories were shopping at Christmas time. The lamp posts along the streets were all lit with Christmas decorations. Have you ever come across any of those photos? Thanks!

by CatherineAZ 4/13/2016 7:05:15 PM
Hi Catherine,

It's funny you should mention those Christmas lights. My first and best recollection of downtown was when my parents used to drive westbound on Congress and seeing the Christmas lights along the street. It was magical. I hope the city one day brings the lights back. To answer your question, I have not found photos taken at that time....yet. I may in the future.

by A.E. Araiza 4/13/2016 7:08:35 PM
I used to work at the old steinfelds downtown before it went to elcon memories!

by Susan eisenhart 4/13/2016 7:08:45 PM
In case you missed it, we have Fred himself in a "then and now" photo. (The "now" was taken by Mamta Popat / Arizona Daily Star)

by Johanna Eubank, tucson.com 4/13/2016 7:09:33 PM
Hi Susan,

My mother used to work at Ruben Golds furniture. She used to walk there along Meyer which went all the way through there. Another neighbor-friend used to work her way through high school at Jacome's. I would go there with her brother and walk around.

by A.E. Araiza 4/13/2016 7:10:30 PM
Several pictures have the same date March 18 1971. Plaza Hotel is one. That is an incorrect date for that picture as the hotel opened months after that.

by allen 4/13/2016 7:10:37 PM
Hi Allen

The photo was taken on that date. The building was under construction at the time. As an aside, or full disclosure, a group of us were on the top floor in the spring of 1973 for Salpointe's after prom.

by A.E. Araiza 4/13/2016 7:14:04 PM
I have many memories of downtown Tucson. Some of my favorites are "window shopping" after the stores were closed, all of the activities around Rodeo Week, taking my weekly deposit to my Christmas Club account at the Valley National Bank. So many more..... I am 70 years old and I spent my childhood wandering the downtown streets with my parents and grandparent. Very happy memories.

by Bernie 4/13/2016 7:14:33 PM
I have similar memories of the downtown area. My mother took us to Myerson's Department Store, otherwise known as the White House. She would take there before the start of each school year. From what I recall, the biggest hassle was finding a place to park. Now there are a number of garages which makes it a little easier.

by A.E. Araiza 4/13/2016 7:16:47 PM
Hi Rhonda,

In the interest of full disclosure, Rhonda is my wife. Yes, and as you know, I love reading mystery novels, it is an interest I used to share with my mother. Once a photo is taken from our archive and scanned I look for some sign that will indicate where the photograph was located. I use the city directory extensively which is located in our library. I look for a business, if the case my be, and it will give me an indication where the structure was located. Otherwise, I find it really hard to reproduce the photo.

by A.E. Araiza 4/13/2016 7:21:09 PM
Have you found any pictures of an historic brickyard just west of the Dragon V
iew Restaurant at Bonita and Commerce Park Loop?

by Susan Wells 4/13/2016 7:21:18 PM
This is the 200 block of East Congress Street, the north side looking east in June, 1965. There is the Federal Credit Clothing business along with Brott Jewelry, Posners art supply store and much further down the street, the Hotel Congress. Tucson Citizen photo

by Johanna Eubank, tucson.com 4/13/2016 7:21:50 PM
Oops, Rhonda's question didn't get posted. It's coming up. The answer is below.

by Johanna Eubank, tucson.com 4/13/2016 7:22:41 PM
Hunting for some of these spaces must be a bit like following clues in a detective novel...were there any tools that were really helpful?

by Rhonda Bodfield 4/13/2016 7:22:44 PM
Never fear, the answer for Susan is on the way.

by Johanna Eubank, tucson.com 4/13/2016 7:23:57 PM
Hi Susan,

I have not... yet. I have not found any photos of the brickyard. It all comes down to luck and more luck in finding some of the historic photos. The Citizen's photographs are categorized alphabetically while the Star's archive is numerical. In either case, if the photographer did not mention say the "brickyard" at the time the assignment was taken then it may not have been catalogued under that name. Or if the "brickyard" was photographed along with other buildings or businesses... then it may be catalogued under the other business. If that makes sense.

by A.E. Araiza 4/13/2016 7:26:27 PM
Fred-

I remember having to go downtown to Penney's to buy school uniforms for St. Peter & Paul School. Grey pants, blue shirts and, yes, blue tie! Could only buy them there,as they were the "official" supplier. I also remember Christmas shopping downtown with all the lights and decorations on the light poles. Hey, how come I didn't know about the after prom at the Pioneer? We went to the old Aztec Inn on Alvernon.

by Herb Wagner 4/13/2016 7:27:10 PM
Hi Herb,

The party was at the Plaza International on Speedway and Campbell. I guess were are even, i didn't know about the party at the Aztec.

by A.E. Araiza 4/13/2016 7:28:27 PM
I am 73, THS 1960, UA 1965. There were 3 Johnnies' restaurants, 8 drive-in movies, could drive up the dirt road to the end of Sabino Canyon during that time. Mother Higgins Juvenile Detention Home. No real questions, just a couple of things to talk about. Not sure how this works. butch

by butch farabee 4/13/2016 7:28:38 PM
Hi Butch,

I remember the Johnnie's as well. I only remember two of them though. The one on Craycroft and Speedway and the other on 22nd and Alvernon. Would love to find images of those places in our archive. As far as the drive-ins, I remember the Midway on Speedway. It was the closest to where I grew up on the (old) eastside.

by A.E. Araiza 4/13/2016 7:31:33 PM
What are some of the more difficult things you had to do to get photos at the same angles as the old ones? I can't believe all you had to do was stand at a corner and shoot for all of them.

by Hannah 4/13/2016 7:31:42 PM
Anyone who wants to share memories from "back in the day" is free to do so here. We love them.

by Johanna Eubank, tucson.com 4/13/2016 7:32:41 PM
Hi Hannah,

There are a number of difficulties reproducing the older photos. It is impossible to stand in the same place in many places because that would require I stand in the middle of a busy street, or in the case of the reproduction of the Sabino High School photo I would be photographing a wall. In taking another photo of La Placita Village last week I came to the realization the photograph was taken from the scaffolding of the building. The reason I say that is because I was near the top of a building and it was impossible to move over any further .

by A.E. Araiza 4/13/2016 7:37:51 PM
THEN: The east side has a new high school being built on the city's fringes on North Bowes Road near East Snyder Road. Sabino High School currently under construction on March 18, 1971. Bill Hopkins / Tucson Citizen

by Johanna Eubank, tucson.com 4/13/2016 7:38:01 PM
It's hard to stop the memories once they start flowing. The Mickey Mouse Club at the Fox theater, with it's monthly birthday cakes and yo-yo contests, my time in the early 60's on the Jacome's high school Fashion Board and the fashion shows across the street at the Pioneer Hotel, weekly trips to the Plaza theater to watch Pedro Infante movies, I could happily go on and on but will now read entries from others.

by Bernie 4/13/2016 7:38:25 PM
Are there some photos posted. I can't find gallery.

by Margaret Thornton 4/13/2016 7:38:45 PM
Margaret, I posted a link earlier, but here it is again: Then and now around Tucson

by Johanna Eubank, tucson.com 4/13/2016 7:39:38 PM
Hi Bernie,

I have little recollection of the Mickey Mouse Club at the Fox. Trips to the downtown area were few and infrequent for us unless I went with my cousins. I do remember the weekend matinees and going to see the movie "El Caballo Blanco" at the Plaza with my parents.

by A.E. Araiza 4/13/2016 7:41:54 PM
NOW: What started as a hole in the ground in the middle of nowhere has become the home of the Sabino High School Sabercats in 2016. A.E. Araiza / Arizona Daily Star

by Johanna Eubank, tucson.com 4/13/2016 7:42:06 PM
I recently drove by my old elementary school, Drachman, and was sad that most of it was gone but at least the main entrance was still there. My father also attended Drachman, as did my brother. Ms Weeks was the teacher in charge of the patrol boys, and what a taskmaster she was! Only boys could have that job so I was an observer of the process.

by Bernie 4/13/2016 7:42:12 PM
Bernie,

I remember the mixed reaction when Drachman was turned into a housing project but I like the way they preserved the facade. To my knowledge it now serves a good function.

by A.E. Araiza 4/13/2016 7:44:12 PM
The interesting part of the series has been seeing the reaction of those who have helped me accomplish this task. That includes building supervisors, janitors, receptionists and building owners. Once they realize what I want to accomplish they are more than eager to help out. They are always amazed as to how much the city has changed.

by A.E. Araiza 4/13/2016 7:46:53 PM
The way the series even came about was quite by happenstance. I was recovering from an injury and was placed in limited duty. When I first started back I noticed my photo editor, Rick Wiley, was scanning a bunch of photographs into the system so there would be a digital record of buildings in the downtown area. On a whim, I asked him if I could take the old photographs downtown and try to replicate them. Once I had a series of photos he suggested we post them. It developed into the Then and Now series.

by A.E. Araiza 4/13/2016 7:51:15 PM
THEN: The Veinte de Agosto Park rests between La Placita Village and Braniff-Place-Tucson hotel, left, and the county's buildings on the right in early August, 1973. Tim Fuller / Tucson Citizen

by Johanna Eubank, tucson.com 4/13/2016 7:53:03 PM
NOW: Veinte de Agosto Park in 2016, bounded by North Church Avenue, West Congress Street and West Broadway Boulevard, has become a shady oasis in the downtown area. The park includes the statue of the Mexican revolutionary figure, Pancho Villa, background left middle. A.E. Araiza / Arizona Daily Star

by Johanna Eubank, tucson.com 4/13/2016 7:53:49 PM
THEN: The skeletal structure of the county's new Superior Courthouse is visible next to the old Pima County Courthouse on the right in early August, 1973. Tim Fuller/ Tucson Citizen

by Johanna Eubank, tucson.com 4/13/2016 7:56:28 PM
NOW: The Pima County Superior Court building in 2016, at 110 West Congress Street, is the fourth one built in Pima County. Its recognizable predecessor, a pink structure with big dome on top, is on the other side of the current building. A. E. Araiza / Arizona Daily Star

by Johanna Eubank, tucson.com 4/13/2016 7:57:12 PM
This project has changed my perspective of documenting, photographing the city and its occupants. As I drive around town I try to look for major changes that are taking place, an old building is being torn down to be replaced with a new structure. A new building is going up where there was a parking lot before. I see the importance of documenting the changes that are taking place here. We are here for such a relatively short time and I try to think of how the photographs I take now will be received in the future.

by A.E. Araiza 4/13/2016 7:57:46 PM
Thanks for joining us. Look for more additions to the "Then and now" photo gallery in the future.

by Johanna Eubank, tucson.com 4/13/2016 7:58:49 PM