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Do you support the Rosemont mine? "If the question is, do I support a copper mine in the copper state that has 10 percent unemployment? That's pretty much a no-brainer," Kelly says. Rosemont is trying to create jobs "and good for them."

Barber says he's studied the mine for six years and that Rosemont and its engineers have not solved the issue of how to get enough water to the mine from "an already depleted aquifer under Green Valley and Sahuarita." Says depriving those areas of water, and thus future development, will result in more lost jobs than Rosemont creates.

Name one thing you would keep and one you would throw out from the health-care reform law. Barber: "Don't throw the baby out with the bath water." Says the bill, "written by the pharmaceutical industry," has many problems. Says we need to find a way somehow to get premiums to level off. "We must keep the part that allows seniors preventative care without co-pays." Must keep removal of the cap on lifetime expenses. Keep the part that allows child to stay on parents' insurance policy until age 26.

Kelly on the health-care reform law: "The entire thing should go away and be reversed," and fortunately it looks like the Supreme Court will rule it unconstitutional. "The federal government doesn't the right to tell you you have to buy something." Also says Barber was caught on tape saying two years ago that he supported the reform bill, but now says he hasn't read it. "I did read it," Kelly says.

Barber retorts that Kelly is "again trying to mislead" the voters with reference to a meeting Barber had "before" the ultimate health-care reform bill was introduced. Kelly quotes Harry Truman as saying if you tell the truth, you don't need a memory. Barber says Kelly has not said how he would fix the law and the health -care system.